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Title:Ornatrix Symmetry Ground Strand Not working/Saving
Category:Crash/Critical
Status:Closed
Posted By:ML ( MinLow )
Date Created:20 July 2022

Problem

Description:

Mirrored eyebrow comb doesn't work using the symmetry modifier, When tried to disable the ground strand feature then add another separate ground strand modifier on top, it works. However after saving and re-opening the file, it doesn't work again. It's back to the same error. This happen when the model is rigged with biped and it's turning to other direction.

I'm on 3ds max 2021 & Ornatrix version 6.3.6.25630

I found some other user posting this same problem in another thread, is this not fixed yet? I'm at the final 3 days of my production and was suprised to find this problem after rendering. Please help.

Thanks!

Steps to Reproduce:
20 July 2022
#31625
ML

Actually it's not just the symmetry that doesn't work, it's the ground strand that doesn't work. I tried converting the strands to splines then use strand from shape, then add ground strand on top. The moment I rotate the bone, the comb is not working correctly anymore.

20 July 2022
#31629
Jeordanis Figuereo

Hello,

Please share a simplified version of your scene for testing. You can send it to jeordanis.f (at) ephere .com. 
Have in mind that any fix will be implemented in Ornatrix V7 and V8. V6 is not in development anymore. 
However, I will try to find a workaround so you can finish your project. 

Jeordanis Figuereo (Product Designer. EPHERE Inc.)

21 July 2022
#31633
ML

Hi,

Thanks, here's a very simple example. as you can see when you move the time to frame 30, when the character turns to face other direction, the hair flips.

I'd love to know if the new version works on this for sure since symmetry is a time saver to groom eyerbows & lashes. except of course when it doesn't then I have to go and replant roots for the other sides then regroom all of them, especially when the model has already been approved by client. Cry

21 July 2022
#31634
ML

Sorry forgot to click the upload button after attaching the file.

Here it is.

Attached Files:

>Ornatrix+Ground+Stand+on+Symmetry+Problem.max (888832 bytes),
21 July 2022
#31638
Jeordanis Figuereo

Thank you for the scene. I'm investigating this. 

Jeordanis Figuereo (Product Designer. EPHERE Inc.)

1 August 2022
#31684
Jeordanis Figuereo

Actually this is not a bug. That is how our procedural mirroring works. The solution is to bake the symmetry modifier. 

Jeordanis Figuereo (Product Designer. EPHERE Inc.)

1 August 2022
#31690
ML

Hi, unfortunately I believe this function is only for a new version of Ornatrix right?

I can't find it anywhere on this version of Ornatrix I'm currently running.

1 August 2022
#31695
Jeordanis Figuereo

Correct, that is for new versions.

In that case you can try collapsing the hair stack up to the Symmetry modifier. 

Jeordanis Figuereo (Product Designer. EPHERE Inc.)

 
 
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