Ornatrix 3dsmax: Ornatrix 7 Some Questions

- "Interpolation Guid Selection" in Hair from Guides affects "Dense Distribution Settings". For example, if use Dense Distribution Settings >> Guide Proximity >> Distance to generate hair only around the guide, after select "Barycentric InterPolation" in "Interpolation Guid Selection" and set it to "Nearest Neighborhood Triangulation". The "Distance" effect will be lost. Also, if you select the right icon (Guid Circle area InterPolation) of Interpolation Guid Selection, the Distance value will be affected even if you uncheck "Guide Proximity" in Dense Distribution Settings. - "Use Guide Faces" in Dense Distribution Settings in Hair from Guides does not work properly.Iterations "2" looks like it's set to 3. - In Ornatrix 6, the base mesh is always calculated as a triangle, but in Ornatrix 7, it seems that it is not triangulated. Is this a specification change? - When group Guides, the boundaries of the groups are clearly separated in the Hair from Guides now. Is it possible to disable forced per-group completion? Also, guide group creation is not reflected in real time in 3ds Max.The user must take action to recalculate in the Hair from Guides modifier. Confirmed Ornatrix 7.1.0.25929 [Nightly] + 3dsMax 2021
11 November 2020 #29145
oakcorp	It is an addition. Ornatrix 7.1.0.25929 Edit Guides Modifier issuees. - Grab brush in Ox Edit Guides only affects hair tips. - "Preserve Strand Length" is not working. - Grab brush does not consider the Select Brush selection. - "Show Vertex Ticks" option is not working. - The new "Overlay Blending" and "Overlay Opacity" option are not working. - There is no way to use the Scale brush.
12 November 2020 #29151
Jeordanis Figuereo	Hello, let me go over each point one by one. - There is no way to use the Scale brush. Can you elaborate? I can use it normally: - The new "Overlay Blending" and "Overlay Opacity" option are not working. I can reproduce it. - "Show Vertex Ticks" option is not working. I can reproduce it. - Grab brush does not consider the Select Brush selection. It is working fine here: - "Preserve Strand Length" is not working. it is working fine here: As you can see the strand length is being preserved. - Grab brush in Ox Edit Guides only affects hair tips. As you can see the whole strand is being affected: Jeordanis Figuereo (Product Designer. EPHERE Inc.) LinkedIn Discord
12 November 2020 #29152
Jeordanis Figuereo	- "Interpolation Guid Selection" in Hair from Guides affects "Dense Distribution Settings". For example, if use Dense Distribution Settings >> Guide Proximity >> Distance to generate hair only around the guide, after select "Barycentric InterPolation" in "Interpolation Guid Selection" and set it to "Nearest Neighborhood Triangulation". The "Distance" effect will be lost. I can reproduce it. We will investigate it. -Also, if you select the right icon (Guid Circle area InterPolation) of Interpolation Guid Selection, the Distance value will be affected even if you uncheck "Guide Proximity" in Dense Distribution Settings. I can reproduce it. We will investigate it. - "Use Guide Faces" in Dense Distribution Settings in Hair from Guides does not work properly.Iterations "2" looks like it's set to 3. I will investigate this. - In Ornatrix 6, the base mesh is always calculated as a triangle, but in Ornatrix 7, it seems that it is not triangulated. Is this a specification change? I'm not sure I understand, can you elaborate? Ornatrix doesn't make changes to the mesh topology. - When group Guides, the boundaries of the groups are clearly separated in the Hair from Guides now. Is it possible to disable forced per-group completion?Also, guide group creation is not reflected in real time in 3ds Max.The user must take action to recalculate in the Hair from Guides modifier. I can reproduce it. Thanks. Jeordanis Figuereo (Product Designer. EPHERE Inc.) LinkedIn Discord
13 November 2020 #29160
oakcorp	Thank you for the verification. >>- There is no way to use the Scale brush. >>Can you elaborate? I can use it normally: It is not the "Scaling" of the Grow/Shrink brush. The correct behavior of the Scale brush is: Screen Capture https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rSZLCPaFPBodAtimFlYg2KyEZzCUqqf1/ >>- Grab brush does not consider the Select Brush selection. >>It is working fine here: try using the Grab brush, selecting at the root or control point sub-object level. Even if "Affect Selected Only" is disabled, only the selected part will be affected. Screen Capture https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-bQcxS97shV--Fhfx3GQlbCJqIIQqfkU/ >>- "Preserve Strand Length" is not working. >>it is working fine here: confirmed that it was fixed in the latest Nightlies. >>- Grab brush in Ox Edit Guides only affects hair tips. >>As you can see the whole strand is being affected: This is a bug from Ornatrix v6. The correct Grab brush behavior before Ornatrix v5 is: Screen Capture https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BcNaQxETF7_7vaO07Lo5aZ-pV9uN0i96/
13 November 2020 #29161
oakcorp	>> I'm not sure I understand, can you elaborate? Ornatrix doesn't make changes to the mesh topology. See the capture below. In Ornatrix 6, when "Use Guide Faces" is turned on, hair will occur only on the triang near the guide. It doesn't look like a triangle in Ornatrix v7. Also, in Ornatrix v7, disable "Use Guide Faces" does not restore it. (("Use Guide Faces" doesn't work at all in the latest Nightlies?) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Qtrf4FWmiYrR3Sp6E7HfkoiUpIAKQsD_/
13 November 2020 #29164
oakcorp	Thank you for the verification. >>- There is no way to use the Scale brush. >>Can you elaborate? I can use it normally: It is not the "Scaling" of the Grow/Shrink brush. The correct behavior of the Scale brush is: (Captured with Ornatrix v6) >>- Grab brush does not consider the Select Brush selection. >>It is working fine here: try using the Grab brush, selecting at the root or control point sub-object level. Even if "Affect Selected Only" is disabled, only the selected part will be affected. Screen Capture https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-bQcxS97shV--Fhfx3GQlbCJqIIQqfkU/ >>- "Preserve Strand Length" is not working. >>it is working fine here: confirmed that it was fixed in the latest Nightlies. >>- Grab brush in Ox Edit Guides only affects hair tips. >>As you can see the whole strand is being affected: This is a bug from Ornatrix v6. The correct Grab brush behavior before Ornatrix v5 is:
19 November 2020 #29225
Jeordanis Figuereo	Thanks for the videos. About the scale brush. it has been removed. It will be added to the Comb brush as an additional option. Trying with the latest build the Grab brush works fine with selections: Nikolay it's working on the Grab brush. But have in mind that it was modified to work only on the strands that are inside the brush shape when you click on the hair. Jeordanis Figuereo (Product Designer. EPHERE Inc.) LinkedIn Discord
20 November 2020 #29231
oakcorp	Thank you for the update!

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Data created:	9 November 2020