V8 GUI changes

 
 
 
Posted by:dccroninaz@gmail.com
Data created:22 December 2023

Are there going to be more features/changes to the GUI that have yet to be released in V8? I would appreciate any level of communication on this, Ornatrix is an expensive plugin and I feel like I paid to be a beta tester.

I am trying to get used to it but I'm not a fan. I understand that the new version is better for machine performance but in my workflow it's worse for human performance.

  • Not All modifiers have been redesigned, resulting in the modifier panels readjusting based on where you click in the modifier stack. its jarring and gets in the way of working.
  • Check boxes seem to be left aligned, dropdown lists are right aligned, and all things blend together now. Some sections have space, some are crowded. It makes for a messy look and breaks my mental flow. My brain is looking for things that have existed since V4 and now its been redesigned to look like a Maya menu, but that Maya menu is inside Max... it is very disruptive.
  • Things that required one click and minimal mouse travel now require two clicks and more mouse travel.
  • Some things were just moved to different ends of the modifier panel. which means more scrolling for no benifit.
  • Things used to be color coated with yellow/red so your eye could glance to the right section very easily. now everything is grey. I would read each line if I could, but the lines are very disorganized so a basic F pattern is difficult for people trained on latin based languge. It also breaks creative flow to actually read your tools.
  • Hair clustering modifier is gone now? I didn't know that until I bought it. If its burried in a different modifier now, it would be nice to see that documented in the changes.

Overall the current state of V8 has me feeling like an old man that complains about new things that don't work reliably. I want to like it, some of the new features are great, so if there are more changes coming then I would like to know that. I will gladly come back to it. If there is not going to be any public communication on the redesign of the tools then I think I am going to advise people I know to stay with V7. I spend 20+ hours a week grooming and have used Ornatrix for almost a decade personally and at multiple studios. I like ornatrix, I use this tool A LOT. This is the first time I have ever resented upgarding.

Switching between EditGuides and HairFromGuides is a serious problem for my workflow. I'm very happy with V7 and can rely on it. If HairfromGuides was organized the way it was in V7 with better buttons/colors and the modifer panels stopped resizing constantly then I could atleast keep working. Right now I have to uninstall it and I'm putting V7 back because it's that difficult to keep focus with these bugs/features.

Please don't redesign Editguides modifier to look like a Maya menu. it's not flashy or sexy as far as UI goes but its not broken, its proven and true and I need it. There are artists out there that left Maya and it's design principles and won't look back. Using shapes and colors make us fast, and creative. 

Hello! Sorry for the delay.

Are there going to be more features/changes to the GUI that have yet to be released in V8? I would appreciate any level of communication on this, Ornatrix is an expensive plugin and I feel like I paid to be a beta tester.

Thank you for your feedback regarding the UI. Yes, it has changed but we are still working on it as we speak. We are migrating it to QT and it wil continue changing in the future as we migrate each modifier and make eveything look more unified. We are updating the documentation to reflect those changes in the UI. I understand that this changes affect your experience. I hope the final result suits your needs.
Hair clustering modifier is gone now? I didn't know that until I bought it. If its burried in a different modifier now, it would be nice to see that documented in the changes.

Hair clustering modifier is gone now? I didn't know that until I bought it. If its burried in a different modifier now, it would be nice to see that documented in the changes.


The hair clustering modifier was deprecated a couple years ago and replaced with the Clump modifier. In the documentation you can see it in the deprecated section.

I want to like it, some of the new features are great, so if there are more changes coming then I would like to know that. I will gladly come back to it. If there is not going to be any public communication on the redesign of the tools then I think I am going to advise people I know to stay with V7. I spend 20+ hours a week grooming and have used Ornatrix for almost a decade personally and at multiple studios. I like ornatrix, I use this tool A LOT. This is the first time I have ever resented upgarding.

This is a good point. In this redesign we will try to keep things familiar for muscle memory.

Jeordanis Figuereo (Product Designer. EPHERE Inc.)

It's the holiday season, I don't think people expect instant communication at all. Thank you very much for being willing to talk about it and letting users like myself know. I'll be patiently looking out and revisit V8 in the future.

If HairClustering has been completely deprecated now then I will have to update my workflow to take better advantage of the clumping modifier, thank you for letting me know.

 

Happy New Year!