Guides From Curves - Help Please

 
 
 
Posted by:modado
Data created:20 October 2020

<span title="">I've been trying to create hair out of the curves for a while, unfortunately without success, that's all I get (screenshots), what am I doing wrong?
Can someone help?
Thanks in advance.</span>Ornatrix_GuidesFromCurves_01Ornatrix_GuidesFromCurves_02Ornatrix_GuidesFromCurves_Help.c4d

<span title="">Here are the screenshots and C4D file</span> :)


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>Ornatrix_GuidesFromCurves_Help.c4d (473291 bytes),

Hello,

I tried your scene and this is the result that I get:

This is the expected result, considering that:

  1. There are not enough guides/curves to cover the whole scalp
  2. You are not using a distribution/multiuplier map hair Hair from Guides to determine the hair growing area
  3. You didn't setup the parting plane/map/groups.

In case you need to know more about hair interpolaiton we explain it here: https://ephere.com/plugins/maxon/c4d/ornatrix/docs/1/Basic_Concepts.html

1. and 2. What's happening in your scene is that Ornatrix doesn't have enough information to interpolation the hair as you expect. Hair from Guides will generate hair in the whole scalp because you didn't stablish any area limit using a texture map, so areas of the scalp that do not have guides will get hairs that are just an exproximation of the guides in other areas. With this method the groom will not look as you want because you don't have enough guides, so you will not get enough control over the shape of the groom. To solve this, either add a texture map to limit the growing area to only near the guides that you have there. Or add more guides. 

3. In the guides you have a parting on the front, but the interpolation doesn't know about this parting because you are not telling it about it. Correct parting settings will tell Ornatrix how the hairs should be interpolated to each side of the parting. To create parting you can use the parting tool found in Hair from Guides.  You can also paint a texture map to represent the parting, where each side of the part is a different color. I would go for the parting plane tool in Hair from Guides.

 

Jeordanis Figuereo (Product Designer. EPHERE Inc.)

<span title="">Thanks for the feedback.
That is the result with a texture.
Question:
Is there no way to do the same thing without making partings and texture, like on the screenshots?
<span title="">(Place the hair in a radius around the curves.)</span>
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<span title="">I figured out the way to get radius around the curves, out of this <span class="tlid-translation translation" lang="en"><span title="">tutorial</span>:
</span></span>

<span title="">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzvplAzUBOo</span>

<span title=""> (one of the best, but unfortunately made in high speed) but I still have some problems:
<span class="tlid-translation translation" lang="en"><span title="">1. Not all hairs follows the clump
2. Sometimes the clumps dont follow guide and go in a different direction</span></span></span>

<span title=""><span class="tlid-translation translation" lang="en"><span title=""><span class="tlid-translation translation" lang="en"><span title="">Am I doing something wrong?</span></span></span></span></span>


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Sorry for the text:

I figured out the way to get radius around the curves, out of this tutorial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzvplAzUBOo

(one of the best, but unfortunately made in high speed) but I still have some problems:
1. Not all hairs follows the clump
2. Sometimes the clumps dont follow guide and go in a different direction

Am I doing something wrong?

(In the previous post are screenshots and C4D file.)

For the problem under point 1 I have found a solution (Flyaway Fraction)
But the problem under point 2 still persists.


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2. Sometimes the clumps dont follow guide and go in a different direction


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I can see that there is an issue with the transforms when grounding the generated guides. We are looking into this and I will keep you posted. 

Jeordanis Figuereo (Product Designer. EPHERE Inc.)