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If anyone can take a look, I posted a scene with the hair object from r24.

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Thanks, but that didn't fix the problem. Try it with the scene I posted. The ends of the clumps still reach for the opposite side of the hairstyle.

There's no scalp in the file I posted, but after your suggestion about grounding I made a sphere to ground the strands to. So then it won't work with mesh strips is what you're saying.

By the way, this is just a test scene and not the final wig for the character scene

If I convert to interpolated hair then I'm going to assume I won't be able to use cloth sim to drive the strips/ hair after that. The whole purpose of using mesh strips was to be able to sim with cloth

That's great, but will that work after doing all of the things you said in post 209 and 210? 

What I'm asking is if it's possible to do what's in that video of the flowing cloth hair, and also have clumping?

I'm watching the videos a second time. Thanks for all the help.

I still get the same clumping problem when using hair from guides with the mesh strips. The ends of the clumps reach for the opposite side.

I think the best option will be to just model a pointy tip on the mesh strip to look like a clump. Also, I can't use interpolation because that issue of hairs going through the shoulders will happen because the interpolation isn't smart enough to split near the bottom.

A great feature would be to add interpolation that works on the roots, but disappears down the length of the hair, so it can split around objects at the bottom.

Okay, so I wasn't crazy. It's just some finesse needed by someone who knows every button in the plugin.

Thanks.

When I build the real hairstyle, would it be better to make the strip roots have more space between them? I'm using Blender Hair Tool to make the mesh strips.

It worked, thanks. I didn't need to delete any strands.

Using this method won't work. Too many weird things happening in the scene and any adjustment causes everything in Ornatrix to go screwwy and all over the screen. And everything on screen slows down and takes forver to update. 

I'm starting to wonder if I wasted $600 on this plugin. Why has this been so difficult to use? Should I go back to R23?

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I don't know if you saw the other thread, but in this scene the character can't be visible when the hair is visible. Whether its viewport or final render. Turning on visibility for one, toggles the other off and vice versa.