Thank you very much for the reply Jeordanis, I will play around with the demo somemore with your sample file while looking through your reply in detail. In a mean while, here is the file that I somehow unsuccessfully upload:

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Hello again, 

After playing around a bit more I want to try to group hair into multiple clump( just like this video guide here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GqaYb5oR-w ). The problem is it is very difficult for me to assign group to each clump when I can't distinguish between the assigned  clump and unassigned clump, and especially which clump is assigned to which group. Am I doing something wrong here? I am sure there is a better solution than this. Thank you.

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Hi, hopefully this will be my last question before I buy the license. If I want the base of the hair to be stiff while the tip to be soft, can I achieve that with Ornatrix? With nHair I can achieve this by setting start curve attract and modify its graph:

Thank you.

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Hello again Jeordanis,

Yes I am talking about the hair simulation.

About the 'Group Holder Grid Position parameter' if I understand correctly it allows the tip of the hair group to move freely individually which is not what I am looking for. I want the hair to move together as a group from base to tip ( I need a pointy hair tip ) but dynamically softer around the tip area.

I see, that's unfortunate. However I still really like Ornatrix simulation.

I tried to use force field for the simulation and I noticed that the 'lift' parameter is missing. Is it locked for the full version? If so, are there any more dynamic options locked for the full version? I am a bit excited if that is the case.



Also when I simulate the hair, every hair clump though separated into different group move too much together. Is there a way to offset their movement so that the hair clump move a little more separately?

Thank you, after this I should be able to make my decision. Sorry if I ask too many questions and thank you very much for the reply Jeordanis :D.

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Sorry, I haven't try that yet. I will give you an update when I have an opportunity to do so.

I am about to buy the license, does the maya license work the same way as 3D max license? Meaning I can use Reset License link on the licensing page to release the hardware lock if I move to another workstation?

Also for now I will buy the license and install it on my personal computer at home to do R&D. I know that it is possible to ask for an additional Ornatrix hardware lock for 3Dmax, is it the same for maya license?

Thank you.

Thank you Jeordanis, I will ask Marsel for futher information.

And I am very excited to say that I have finally purchased a license!

BTW Jeordanis, is there a document which explain what each parameter in the dynamic node does? Like maximum velocity, lattice count, etc. The document on the site doesn't go into details about Ornatrix dynamic.

Nice! I will check it out right away. Thanks Jeordanis!

Hello again.

I tried to export my simulated curve with the method you mentioned earlier with curves from strands mode. However it seems that the ground srands node is no longer working. I need to export the curve which attached to the skin. How can I do that? Thanks.

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Hello again, 2 things:

1. It still doesn't work.

2. When I have Dynamic Node after the ground strand when I tried to use 'collide with surface' the dynamic became a bit wierd and some hair started to flicker.

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Hello Jeordanis,

Sorry for disappearing for quite a while. My work is confidential so I can not send the scene over. Since my deadline was close I decided to not visit the forum and tried to finish the shot with ornatrix with the best of my ability. Facing a lot of technical difficulties, I will try my best to describe the problems which I hope will be helpful to the developers.

I will start with my set up :

So I started off with a guide curve from client, I convert them to ornatrix guide by select the curves then 'add hair'. To simulate I apply a 'dynamic node' on top of 'ground stand node'. Lastly, before applying 'curve from strands node' I use 'animation cache node' to convert simulation into cache.

The first problem I noticed is that the order of the curve I selected to convert into ornatrix guide and the order of curve generated from 'Curves From Strands Node' is different. Meaning I cannot apply the animation from ornatrix simulation back to client's guide curve even if the number of span is the same.

Now the Dynamic node :


Self collision :

When I put 'dynamic node' on top of 'ground stands node', when I turn on self collision the simulation gets weird. In the picture above, the character only move from T-Pose to shot pose which is nothing extreme and the simulation is apparently got very weird. However, sometimes when I have 'dynamic node' under 'ground stands node' the simulation tends to get a little bit more stable.

I will leave with the 2 issues for now, when I have time I will try to make another pose. Thanks.

ps. If you don't mind can you give some introductory explaination of the node 'Moov' which is in development? What can we expect from this new simulation node? I am very, very curious as a simulation artist.

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